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  What more do they need to see?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so bethelites are being decreased...bethel homes even sold off.... special pioneers no longer being funded.. magazines getting smaller and published less frequently.. building work stopping or being reduced.. no large conventions and renting of venues.. etc.... so, money is not coming in anymore to cover the "expenses"??.

  didnt the first ever watchtower said that when this occurs, it would be evidence of god no longer blessing the activity....

  oh, and throughout the years, we have constantly been told that the "growth of the org and the projects such as buildings and contributions" etc were evidence of gods blessing.... .

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  The comments by Heard are the spin. Most JW's won't even blink. Most of us wouldn't have at one time.

  Its that they are being practical, and because the growth is so outstanding and huge (MASSIVE!), the funds donated just can't keep pace with the growth! But you guys have been doing great with the money! Keep it up!

  So thats it. Nothing interesting to most JW's. Until people get their particular button pushed and allow themselves to look closer, they will remain controlled.

  For me it was blood. For my wife, disfellowshipping. For a buddy of mine it was 1914. For many others its being treated unfairly or seeing corruption that allows them to consider the possibility the religion isn't special.

  Thats how people leave. It has to be something meaningful to THEM. The branch itself has plenty for everyone to work with to get out, but the narrative and control is strong.

  I will say though, when someone gets their button pushed.......it usually leads to a pretty fast wake up.
  
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  Where are you from?

  by BeautifulMind in

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  2. friends

  i know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.

  but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.

  i currently live in georgia, usa.

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  San Diego, CA. About the best place in the universe.
  
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  Have you heard the one about "Back to the Future" Predicting 911??

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. entertainment

  when somebody posted this on fb, i was anxious to see how ridiculous it would be, probably worse then the gb prophecies, etc.

  after watching the clip, i honestly don't know what to believe.

  at the very least it's very entertaining and interesting.

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  Seriously though......in the 90's there was an Armenian guy that tried to blow up the towers. Its been targeted more than once. So the video game or anything else, really isn't stretching too far.
  
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  Have you heard the one about "Back to the Future" Predicting 911??

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  when somebody posted this on fb, i was anxious to see how ridiculous it would be, probably worse then the gb prophecies, etc.

  after watching the clip, i honestly don't know what to believe.

  at the very least it's very entertaining and interesting.

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  I just noticed there is a 9 a 1 and another 1 on my computer keyboard. Its a separate 1 from a 10 key just for all you doubters out there. I have a "double? espresso "shot" on my desk. Double representing the twin towers, and "shot" meaning shot.

  I also just was sent an e mail from my elderly father that claims Obama is pushing sharia law in Montana. I accidentally printed this e mail, instead of my intended irs docs.

  therefore.....my desk predicted 9/11 in reverse.
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  oh dear....

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhhs5lhr00.

  words.....just cant find the words......

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  Oh man.....the comments....the video.
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  seek help buddy. Its a big life out there. Go do something with it.
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  What is Your Favorite JW YouTube Video?

  by cognac in

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  maybe it's shocking, funny, a good story, etc.. i was just watching the one below... i was shocked!

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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qmypu7mxo.

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  This stuff drives me nuts (first video). Does it really take guts to interupt a large gathering by yelling? With every person I have ever spoken to who is now out, I have yet to hear one single story that starts with...."this guys at the convention yelled something that really made me think".

  Instead it feeds the narrative of the fire breathing apostate that they are told to beware of, and that is proof of Satans unique persecution against them. Bravo you moron! You have just entrenched the faith of thousands of JW's even more, while essentially engaging in therapy for your own scars, and coming off exactly like they want you too. If the branch was smart they would get some actors to do this at every convention. It would really be good in continuing the fear narrative.
  

  Drives me nuts.
  
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  Jan 2016 study WT attempt to keep control of professed anointed ones, brainwashing in action!

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. beliefs

  a really great example of wt pulling doctrine out of their heiney that nowhere exists in the scriptures!

  when i started waking up to ttatt, i remember in my own reading the tons of scriptures that speak of god, the holy spirit, etc teaching directly.

  tons of scriptures that go against the wt doctrine of only able to learn through them.

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  Playing devils advocate here however, wouldn't the scripture be referring to those already anointed? In other words, the scripture is saying that the anointed don't need to be taught. that wouldn't apply then to the non anointed then in their eyes yes?
  
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  The Iron Fist in the Velvet Glove

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses are fond of saying there are no automatic sanctions for taking blood.

  that they no longer disfellowship someone who takes blood.

  that they have a "free choice" in the matter.

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  Personal responsibility is great. I'm all for it.

  Convincing someone to not accept available medical treatment through horrifically implausible scriptural justification, and then enforcing that belief through a communal shunning program......is not the same thing as being responsible for your own decisions.

  Smart people do dumb things all the time. Haven't you watched the political debates in the US?
  
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  My mom passed away yesterday....

  by minimus in

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  thank you all for your sincere encouragement during these last few weeks.

  finally, she is at peace.

  i was with her , holding her hand when she died.

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  I know we don't know each other bud, but my sincere condolences on the loss of your mother.